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The Gibson ES-335 was the world’s first commercially available semi-hollowbody guitar.
Selmer London began distributing Gibson in the UK. The list of prices for tohe Gibsons were listed in guineas. Converted to pounds the ES-355’s list price was £306.60 ($420.93). That would convert £9.924.71 (or $) in today’s money.
From: (https://meandguitar.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/hush-money/): When Blackmore bought the guitar used in 1962 , its stock stop tailpiece had already been replaced by a Bigsby B5 tremolo, which is actually designed for solidbody guitars. It also still had a short pickguard typical of early Sixties Dot neck ES-335 guitars, although Blackmore remove it a later date, as well as its original black metal-top control knobs, which were swapped for gold knobs sometime after he stopped playing the guitar.
Blackmore used this guitar to record everything from Screaming Lord Sutch’s 1965 cover of “Train Kept A-Rollin” to “Child In Time.
History of Ritchie’s Gibson ES-335:
Ritchie bought the guitar used at Jim Marshal’s music shop in London in 1962. Gibsons had only become available in England in 1960 when they lifted a ban on importing American guitars.
Right from the start of the Deep Purple Mk1 era in 1968, Ritchie Blackmore used his trusty 1961 cherry red Gibson ES-335 TD as main guitar alongside his Vox AC30 and a Hornby Skewes germanium fitted treblebooster. Midway sixties Ritchie modified this guitar with a Bigsby-Vibrato. The Gibson guitar was usually fitted with 2 Gibson PAF Humbucker pickups. In one of the Humbucker’s coils there are 6 adjustable screws installed, one can balance the volume of strings among each other via varying the height. Ritchie now turned the screws uncommonly high so as to get a more P90-like sound. The coil with the screws picks up more voltage than the other. Ritchie will use this guitar on stage until midway 1970. In the studio the guitar stayed with him even longer, at least until the December 1971 “TOTP” TV session.
At the end of 1968, Deep Purple Mk1 was the opening act on the “Cream” tour in the USA. At this time Deep Purple was well known in the USA, but not in their home country England. It was the last tour for “Cream”, before the band felt apart. For Eric Clapton the situation was hard to handle, after Ritchie opened the concerts with his aggressive guitar show, the guitar orientated audience wanted to hear more Blackmore. So after only a few shows, Deep Purple were paid out to leave the tour. During these days, a retired Fender Stratocaster from Eric Clapton was given to Ritchie, and he soon fell in love with the sound. Especially the tremolo caught his eye, Compared to the Bigsby on his Gibson ES-335, this was a real enhancement. Not that Ritchie wasn’t satisfied with his ES-335, even Dave Edmunds (Love Sculpture) the shooting star of the upcoming Hardrock scene played an ES-335 with a Vox AC30. Edmunds by the way left behind most English Hardrock-guitar players with his ultra fast and enormous fluidly played version of “Sabre dance” in 1968.
The combination of ES-335 and Vox AC30 was a “top act”. But since Hendrix arrived on the scene, everyone knew what could be done with a vibrato-system. In spring 1969 Ritchie bought a stock 1968 black maple neck Stratocaster. The 68 Strats still had the two-piece old tremolo construction with the steel inertia bar and the stamped vintage steel saddles. For this tremolo, Ritchie used a special custom-made ¼” (6.3mm) heavy weighted steel arm, to attack the tremolo real hard. The value of the tonecap was stock 0.1uF.
With the entrance of new members Ian Gillan & Roger Glover (better known as the Mk2 formation) as replacements for Evans & Simper Deep Purple’s rise to stardom began. Approximately for a year ES-335 and Strat were sharing equal rights. Typical live songs for the ES-335 were for instance the new “Child in Time” or the old “Wring that neck”. Midway 1970 the ES-335 disappeared from stage. The legendary “Child in time” was recorded in the studio using the ES-335.
At the end of 1970, early 1971 the worn-out frets of his Strat were replaced with the higher Gibson jumbo frets. The maple fretboard was not lacquered afterwards, so it became noticeably darker with time.
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After attending a Hednrix concert in 1970 Ritchie made the decision to try using a Fender Stratocaster, purchasing one from a former roadie for Eric Clapton.
Live Ritchie continued to play the guitar live when they performed “Wring That Neck” until the summer of 1971 when that song was replaced in the set with “Lazy.”
According to Jerry Bloom he did use it once last time to perform “Fireball” on Top of the Pops in December of 1971.
Ritchie claims that his ex-wife Babs stole the guitar from him.
Barbel sold it at an auction at Christie’s in 2004 to a vintage guitar dealer named Laurence Wexer.
Ilhan Akbil purchased the guitar from FrettedAmericana (David Brass) in Calabassas, California. They may have purchased the guitar from Wexer at some point previously.
Huge appreciation to Ilhan for joining us on the show to tell his story of his passion for Deep Purple, Ritchie, and about the guitar.
Blackmore: “The 355 was a good guitar, but it didn’t have the same sound: it was warmer, fuzzier. It would gloss up the notes a bit. With the Strat, if you played a wrong note, everybody heard it. Ultimately, it was a beast well worth taming.”
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I found out about this excellent podcast by accident and I absolutely love it. It’s a great fun listen. I’ve only played a few episodes so have loads to catch up! The House of Blue Light review was interesting. I saw Purple on this tour at Wembley London UK. On that eve Blackmore refused to do an encore! So Lord and Glover played lead. It was definitely an interesting version of Smoke on the water! Having seen Gillan in mind blowing vocal form (the band) live in 81, it was noticeable Ian had sadly lost some of his range/power by 87/88. Overall he was still great. Keep up the great work, thank you!
Lead up to the Album:
This album saw the departure of Ged Peck on guitar with Pete Parks joining the band. Peck left to pursue classical guitar playing.
We talked on our last Warhorse episode about how Rick Wakeman was very briefly in the band but did not make it to any of the recordings. Rick left in April of 1970 to join the Strawbs.
The Warhorse Story Volume 2 liner notes states that the album was released (or as Nick Simper puts it “escaped”) in 1972. There were no singles from this album.
The head of A&R for Vertigo gave the band a 1,500 budget and said “Take your time, do what you want.”
At the end of 1971 they headed to De Lane Lea to record the album.
Part way through the recording Robbie Beck came into the studio to tell them they only had 500 worth of time left. It turns out that the head of A&R had left and not told anybody the budget he’d promised the band.They were able to get a little more money to finish the recording.
The label wanted the album finished head of Christmas so they had to rush to get it done.
Nick apparently went into a tirade about the budgeting issue with some of the “big wigs” at Phonogram and were soon dropped after the album came out in June of 1972.
From The Warhorse Story liner notes: “Red Sea, as the second album was titled, also sported a Vertigo sleeve that was as poorly executed as the first one had been brilliant. The original concept of an ironclad warship had sounded great but the less than professional results look amateurish today.
Ashley Holt’s performance on “Back in Time” was criticized as having been the “unconscious model for the kind of singing” that they parodied in Spinal Tap according to Richie Unterberger on AllMusic.
WARHORSE: “Red Sea” (Vertigo). “. . . this second album cannot fail to establish them in the hierarchy of Europe’s greatest groups” pompously declare the liner notes. That’s a very hard tag to live up to — and Warhorse don’t quite make it, I’m afraid. “Red Sea” is like the curate’s egg: good in parts. But when they’re good, Warhorse are as good, if not better, than most of the bands working in the hard ‘nd heavy rock field. Their greatest asset is lead guitarist Peter Parks who works hard all the time to lift the ordinariness. He’s really missed on tracks like “Feeling Better” where he has to takes backseat. But his long solo in “Back In Time” is a treat; inventive and exciting, sounding at times like Richie [sic] Blackmore’s work on “wring That Neck” on Deep Purple’s “Book Of The Taliesyn” [sic] album. In fact, “Red Sea” does bear comparison with early Purple albums; hardly surprising, as bassist Nick Simper was on of the founder members of that band. Both he and organist Frank Wilson are content to provide backings which gives the other members of the band something to work on. Vocalist Ashley Holt has a hard, gravelly voice which sometimes doesn’t have sufficient punch to carry some numbers — like “Feeling Better” — on its own. Nevertheless, he can do it if he tries: just listen to “Confident But Wrong” and “Sybilla” — the stand out track, with everybody boogieing along like there was not tomorrow, Drummer Mac Poole provides a solid beat throughout, coming into his own on “Mouthpiece,” an extended solo which is just a little too extended for my liking. But that’s the only bit of self-indulgence on “Red Sea.” — M.O.
Soon after this Mac Poole left Warhorse to join a band called Gong. They recruited drummer Barney James and began work on a third album that was never completed. There are bonus tracks on “The Warhorse Story” that were destined for this third album.
This group played their last show in 1974 though original members would take the stage together a few more times over the years for one off reunion gigs.
Rick Wakeman would recruit Ashley Holt and Barney James for his solo albums “Journey to the Centre of the Earth” and “The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.”
Nick tried to get them to stay with Warhorse, telling them that Rick Wakeman’s projects didn’t last too long, they left.
Two months later Ashley called back about getting back together and he didn’ty have the energy to pick up where they left off. Additionally it was the first time he’d been off the road since the age of 18.
Nick then (with Parks) started up Nick Simper’s Dynamite.
Nick said it was a little galling to sit and watch bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, UFO, and others who had all been opening for Warhorse go on to achieve success as the New Wave of British Heavy Metal really took off.
Simper: “I used to say tot he guys if we sick together long enough, we’ve got a stage act that wipes them out. We had some great times, which is why the band survived for four years, but there were always [problems with managers, publishers. Lots of support bands borrowed from us, both musically and some of our stage act. Judas Priest, all that leather studded arm band stuff, he took that straight of Ashley Holt. He borrowed the bull whip prop too which is fair enough, we nicked if off Dave Dee, they used one for Legend of Xanadu! That guy from Queen, Brian May, he saw us at the Marquee, was a great fan. He borrowed Pete’s solo from the track Back in Time for one of their albums.”
Simon Robinson writes: “Indeed dedicated Queen fans who have heard the Warhorse track agree that the solo on Queen’s Brighton Rock is uncannily similar!”
Robinson concludes: “It’s perhaps all too easy to day to forget just how important the live circuit was back int the ‘70s, both for the bands who played it and the audiences who came to watch and in some cases be influenced by what they saw. Warhorse can be proud of their part in it all.
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April 7 was Ritchie’s last show with the band until they reformed in 1984.
Ritchie’s last show with Mark 3 was on
The Graz and Paris concerts have both been released in full since but the drum solo from the Graz concert is missing.
It’s said that there was a lot of editing and overdubbing of crowd noise for this album. There’s a noticeable tape loop of applause which you can notice based on the whistling of a fan.
The album was not released until after the band broke up in October of 1976.
Much like Made in Japan the shows were recorded to be able to be released post breakup so they’d have something to be able to sell afterward in case there were no more studio albums.
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Lead up to the Album:
Lineup change: Bernie Torme comes in to replace Steve Byrd who returned to session work.
Phil Banfield comes onto the scene to work as Ian’s manager.
Ian and Phil went to the south coast to get the picture for the front of the UK album.
Gillan says: “He wanted a picture of me with only water behind, and, t o achieve the effect, he said I had to jump. So there I was, with my manager shoultin, ‘Jump,’ and I’d jump. Again and again. From that moment we agreed that when Phil says jump, I jump!”
In 1979 Phil got the band in front of audiences, booking the National Jazz Blues and Rock Festival which became known as the Reading Rock Festival. Gillan were on the same bill as Steve Hcket, Think Lizzy, and Rory Gallagher.
ON September 20, 1979 the original version of this album was released in Japan by Toshiba-EMI. This album was billed as Ian Gillan. Australia and New Zealand got it later in the year.
That version of the album had a different track list.
*Tracks that does not appear on the Japanese version.
**Track that does not appear on the UK version but does appear on the 1993 “Gillan – The Japanese Album” compilation.
***Track unique to the Japanese version.
In 1993 RPM released a compilation called “Gillan – The Japanese Album” which combined the tracks from the Japanese “Mr. Universe” (except “Your Sister’s On My List”) album with the original Gillan “Japanese” album. 14 tracks in total.
Since we’ve already covered 4 of the tracks on the UK version we will focus on the Japanese release of Mr. Universe.
When you look at it the UK version is really more of a sort of compilation featuring 4 tracks previously released, one with a different lineup. The Japanese version, however, is a brand new album.
Stargazer – Issue #20 from December of 1979 also breaks down the differences between the versions.
Simon Robinson states that he doesn’t detect any real difference between the duplicated tracks.
Cover is a pic from Ian Gillan at the Reading Festival in 1978 playing with the brand new Gillan
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Vengeance (Gillan, Towns)
Mr. Universe (Gillan, Towns)
She Tears Me Down (Towns)
Your Sister’s On My List (Gillan, Towns)
Robinson: “… has lyrics which you would expect from a title like that! Musically it starts off sounding a little Zeppelin like (early stuff), just the way the riff is constructed and churned out.”
Robinson compares the ending of the track to an imitation of “Hard Lovin’ Man.”
“The story first hit the headlines on 12 November 1979 when it was revealed that 14 night shift workers had been caught sleeping at a British Leyland plant. The men were found tucked up in sleeping bags when management swooped on the priming shop at the Range Rover plant in Solihull, near Birmingham.
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The album reached No. 11 in the UK, selling over 2 million copies worldwide.
With all the craziness surrounding the track listing and versions of this album there is also another song from the Mr. Universe sessions that is considered lost. The song is called “Parliament Square.”
Reviews from Simon Robinson in Stargazer Issue #20, December of 1979:
Mr.Universe (UK)– Album Review
I recently rated the last studio album, issued only in Japan, as the best ex-purple disc to date. This comprises five tracks from it (three of which have been re-recorded), plus five new tracks. So how could they go wrong? Well they have. How they can honestly turn this out after that Jap. LP is beyond me. The material I can take, what I can’t take is the abysmal mix. It is just bloody terrible. Gillan’s vocals are buried, and though the drummer is presumably playing a whole kit, only the cymbals can be heard.
Mr.Universe (Japan)– Album Review
This contains five tracks from the UK edition (which sound the same to me), plus four new ones. Of those, ‘Your Sister’s On My List’ is quite catchy, and has lyrics which you would expect with a title like that! ‘Move With The Times’ is kept going by bass, drums and piano (sort of Pot Black style!). ‘Sleeping OnThe Job’ is very catchy, but not as good as the live version, because Gillan is mixed down too far. ‘Street Theatre’ is a short Towns instrumental, probably destined for a stage opener some day. Overall, that spark which made Gillan ‘Gillan’ outstanding is absent.
Robinson in Stargazer #20 says that the Japanese version is the best ex-purple disc to date.
Robinson speaks very unfavorably about the UK version, mostly having issues with the mix.
In the UK they promoted the album touring with Randy California. Samson with Bruce Dickinson were also there.
Gillan: “I loved the band; Bernie and John galvanized audiences with their electrifying stage act, and, in John’s case he was described in one review as a ‘walking absurdity’ with a presence that oozed rock ‘n’ roll.”
Gillan’s story about meeting back up with Ritchie from “Child in Time” pages 139-140.
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Worked with UFO, Motorhead, Y&T, Gary Moore, Deep Purple (Perfect Strangers)
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Come On
Sweet Talker
Walking In The Shadow Of The Blues
Love Hunter
Side Two:
Fool For Your Loving
Ain’t Conna Cry No More
Ready An’ Willing
Take Me With You
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Come On
Might Just Take Your Life
Lie Down
Ain’t No Love In The HEart Of The City
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Trouble
Mistreated
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Charted at number 5 on the UK charts and number 146 on the Billboard 200.
From Jorg: “There is a clipping that says “release on Oct 20”. I’m not sure if that happened, I think it was postponed to November 3.”
Jorg: “Japanese release was Dec 5th, I don’t have a date for the US.”
Jorg: “The release caused some negative reactions from people who bought the Japanese “Live At Hammersmith” as import some monthes earlier and now they had to buy that 1978 part again. The Japanese release only had the 1980 part as single album, I think the North American releases were the same.”
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Jon Lord is said to have worked on composing and scoring this album between January and August of 1975.
It was recorded between September 3-6 at Stadthalle Oer-Erkenschwick, near Düsseldorf, Germany.
Remixed at Musicland Studios, Munich.
This is the next in the progression of his “classical” works from The Concerto For Group and Orchestra, Gemini Suite, and Windows, to this.
The backdrop for the composition of this work is at the end of Deep Purple’s original run. Blackmore had left the band in early 1975, playing their last few shows in the spring. By summer of 1975 Jon Lord was scoring this album.
Immediately after they would have Tommy Bolin join the band and record their final album until the 1984 reunion.
Jon moved near Dusseldorf and recorded Sarabande between September 3-6 of 1975. Eberhard Schoener would join him again, this time conducting the Philharmonia Hungarica. Other rock musicians were invited to join for this recording. Unlike with Window this time none would be from Deep Purple.
Composed By, Producer, Organ [Hammond], Piano [Rmi, Steinway], Grand Piano [Yamaha], Synthesizer [Arp Odyssey, String Ensemble], Clavinet, Score, Soloist [Pro] – Jon Lord
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Side One:
Fantasia
This functions as a 3.5 minute overture in three sections.
Sarabande
The Sarabande is a Spanish dance from the 16th century which originated in the East.
Sarabandes are often in triple time
Aria
Scored for piano and synthesizer.
Gigue
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Bouree
Pavane
This is a courtly dance often associated with a Galliard in the early BAroque period. It fell out of favor in the seventeenth century.
Caprice
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The turbulent final days of Deep Purple pushed off the release of Sarabande until October off 1976.
The album got a good amount of promotion. The album sleeve was given a lot of care as they needed to catch the eye of Jon’s largely rock audience.
Sarabande is often mentioned as Jon Lord’s finest individual piece of work outside of Deep Purple.
A couple of years after this Shoener would join Summers in recording the debut album for The Police named “Outlands d’Amour” which Jon Lord says was one of his favourite albums.
Vinyl liner notes by Simon Robinson with musical appreciation from Vince Budd.
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